ASL vs SEE: Super-cali-fragil-istic-ex-pi-alidocious


What truly blows my mind is that even in the year 2010 — with all the amazing research available — public school systems nationwide continue to FAIL our young, Deaf sisters and brothers with deficient teaching styles. Withholding natural access to language, ASL, from deaf children is a disgusting, shameful, form of subvert child-abuse. How dare anyone willfully choose to stunt a child’s cognitive development. When you deny ASL to a deaf child, you effectively lock them in a metaphorical basement with tiny windows looking out onto the rest of the world. Parents and educators … ASL is the answer you’ve been looking for — DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!! _______________________________________ The above is how I feel about several pertinent issues. The video itself is more simple: Fight ignorance with knowledge … and to just have fun, creatively. Big thank you to Dan Foley (DP) for being willing to play the role of ‘SEE’ and for his passion and dedication for spreading awareness about important issues in the Deaf community. I’m still learning how to use Premiere and After Effects to edit footage — sorry the quality of the video is not the best..

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  1. @ASLPerformingArts That would have been interesting, yes, to see the guy spell it out of “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.” If in the video, before, tht could have shown us to balance it out

  2. @ASLPerformingArts I agree with you about this. That would have been interesting.

  3. you know what.. i’m disappointed you didn’t prove your point further by spelling out the word. my cousins and her friends can out spell that SEE guy before he’s done “see-signing” the word

  4. you know what.. i’m disappointed you didn’t prove your point further by spelling out the word. my cousins and her friends can out spell that SEE guy before he’s done “see-signing” the word

  5. @DFoleyable, don’t apologize for your comments! We really appreciate your taking the time to offer your opinion and perspective.

  6. So how would the guy have signed “Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious”? That should have been in the video to ‘show’ us – to balance it out.

  7. @KevKevAllen- I would like to point out that we cannot compare Deaf people with Spanish people, French people or etc because we are from different community… The message I got from you – “Don’t force foreign people because they can hear and Deaf people can’t… so they should accommodate for us.”

    I am sorry if you feel this is offensive; there is not offending intend.

    Everyone– I apologize for so many comments. I enjoyed reading them and listening to your opinions.

  8. The other thing is that those Deaf people (including me) who hates the most are hearing people who expect to us accommodate for them. It would be nice that all hearing people knows ASL, but hearing people are too lazy (in my perspective) to be willing to work with us.

  9. @Banerika– thank you for the correction… there is nothing that Deaf people in Deaf community hates more than “help” attitude.

    I want to point out that there is difference between “D”eaf and “d”eaf. I saw some people typing “deaf” or “Deaf”…

    Deaf means immerse into Deaf Community and using ASL. That also includes pride of being a Deaf person. While deaf means pathological perspective. This group of people either won’t use ASL or know VERY little ASL and prefer to “act” hearing.

  10. @thefullerlife, I agree with you, just a quick thing, how about using the phrase “work with” instead of “help?” Let’s entirely re-frame here.

  11. @KevKevAllen, PS no one said you were not capable of fully learning ASL. You are resistant (for whatever reason) to learning. Why have you given priority to learning the correct grammar of French and refuse to do the same for ASL. just something to think about. 🙂

  12. @banerika, well said. My point for @KevKevAlled is that if you are going to learn a language (presumably to help the deaf?) actually learn the language! Don’t insist the people who have not been afforded the same opportunities as you conform to match your comfort level or make things easier for you.

  13. @KevKevAllen, how well a Deaf person “knows English” depends on whether or not they have received the kind of education they deserve and require, or if they have been sabotaged by the educational sytem. Most have been sabotaged by “well-meaning” but inept hearing people, whose mental “framework” around Deafness prevents real progress being made in terms of teaching Deaf children reading and written English skills. Refusing to ditch SEE in favor of ASL is just one example of that failure.

  14. @KevKevAllen, it’s an injustice because the people who are oppressed are asked to go above and beyond–when they are the ones who are already experiencing job discrimination, battling prejudice, etc. Doesn’t it make more sense and isn’t it more fair for the accommodation to occur on the majority culture’s side? Shouldn’t hearing people make the effort to learn real ASL? They aren’t the ones who have to cope with oppression and the world is literally set up for their them. So I say it’s ON THEM.

  15. @KevKevAllen, here’s one thing you may have not considered. There is a power dynamic that occurs with the majority culture (hearing culture) dominating, and forcing members of the minority culture (in this case Deaf people) to “fit into” the dominant framework. People who are members of the majority group always expect the accommodation to come from the minority group–in this case the accommodation is more English signing. That is an unfair burden and an injustice. More in my next comment …

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  17. kevkevallen, I’ve only been learning ASL for 3 years, but I find it so easy to communicate & relay critical ideas using ASL. If you’ve been learning ASL for 5 years, and you still don’t understand its grammar…

    You need to hang out with Deaf people. And instead of trying to get them to accommodate your lack of ASL comprehension, try to actually learn the language instead. Maybe your inability to be flexible enough to learn a new language is the reason you still don’t get it after 5 years.

  18. @DFoleyable – I’m sorry for the misunderstanding! The new youtube setup messed my comment up. My comment was in response to @KevKevAllen. I though the vid and concept were brilliant!

  19. ASL and SEE what different between? I was thought that the guy use English Sign Language it very old like 17 year ago i think not sure..I use ASL fluent only 95% ..I try understand make sense

  20. really? I’m a native english speaker (8 years into ASL) and I have a very hard time following SEE signing, even when people are mouthing… I find the amount of movement is tiring to my eyes and usually there is still a lot of linguistic information missing…that’s just me.

  21. sweet! love the mac ad reference… 🙂

    is that ASL/ILY handshape image yours?

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